Scalp exercise

Discussions on how to do facial exercises and what these exercises might accomplish.
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Sonia
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Scalp exercise

Post by Sonia » Sun May 20, 2018 11:56 am

Hi to everyone in the forum, i cant speak english so my brother is translating for me, we apologize if we make some grammar mistake.

I have been trying to do the scalp exercise for more than a month without luck, i have managed somehow to raise my eyebrows without wrinkling the forehead, but i cant feel the occipitals muscles and my ears dont move at all... I dont know if that means that i am using the occipitals to raise my eyebrows without wrinkling but my ears are very lazy, or if i am doing it all wrong???

My brother is translating me all the post in the forum about scalp exercise, but i would greatly apprecithe help of people who has master scalp exercise, if you can give me any tips. I really want to learn how to do it. My face is not very smart, i am having some problems isolating the muscles on the rest of exercises, but scalp it seems so difficult for me.

Tom Hagerty
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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Tom Hagerty » Tue May 22, 2018 6:49 am

Sonia,

When you get the video I sent you with my demonstration of the scalp exercise, you'll see exactly what the exercise looks like when it's done correctly. But till you get the package try this strategy using a pillow. So your brother doesn't get a headache translating the paragraph into Spanish here is a translation of "The Pillow Technique." I don't know the Spanish word for "biofeedback" so I used biorretroalimentación.

Esta es la estrategia para obtener el control de esos obstinados músculos occipitales: Acuéstese en una cama con la parte posterior de la cabeza apoyada en una almohada. Ahora, cuando trates de tirar de tus orejas, sentirás incluso la más leve contracción de estos músculos. La almohada actúa como un monitor, un sensor, dándote biofeedback sensorial. Esta biorretroalimentación finalmente te permitirá obtener el control completo de los músculos occipitales.

Sonia
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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Sonia » Tue May 22, 2018 7:40 am

Querido Tom,
Muchas gracias, voy a probar a hacerlo con la almohada como me explicas luego cuando llegue a casa.

El ejercicio 1 de los ojos es muy bueno para desinchar las bolsas de los ojos. Por el hipertiroidismo se me hincharon mucho y con la medicación los tengo mejor, pero siguen algo hinchados. El medico dice que es un poco de retención de líquidos y algo de grasa que se salio hacia abajo porque tube los ojos muy hinchados de la enfermedad. Noto que me levanto con las bolsas de los ojos muy hinchadas y al hacer el ejercicio 1 se desinchan mucho, creo que el ejercicio elimina los líquidos y después de hacerlo están más desinchados. Hoy estube en el doctor, y el me noto las bolsas de los ojos mucho más pequeňas.
Puede este ejercicio con el tiempo también eliminar el poquito de grasa de la bolsa de los ojos?

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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Tom Hagerty » Tue May 22, 2018 3:21 pm

Tu escribiste, "Puede este ejercicio con el tiempo también eliminar el poquito de grasa de la bolsa de los ojos?"

Grasa en la cara
Grasa en la cara
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No quieres deshacerse de la grasa en su cara. Esta grasa, almohadillas de grasa (fat pads), hacen que tu rostro se vea joven. A medida que una persona envejece, esta grasa comienza a disminuir y deslizarse más abajo en la cara. Los ejercicios que muestro en el video ralentiza este proceso o incluso lo detiene. Mira estos dibujos. Verá cómo el envejecimiento le afecta a la cara si los músculos faciales no se ejercitan correctamente.

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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Sonia » Tue May 22, 2018 5:21 pm

Muy interesante lo de la grasa de la cara Tom, no sabía que se perdía grasa de la cara y eso nos envejecia.

Pero tengo un poquito de fat eyebag que sobresale, entonces si no se elimina esa grasa va a quedar la zona hinchada. O tal vez los ejercicios pueden reconocer esa grasa en su sitio?

Perdona por hacer tantas preguntas, esque el tema me resulta muy interesante. Y muchas gracias por tu ayuda.

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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Tom Hagerty » Wed May 23, 2018 7:39 am

Sé que los ojos jóvenes son importantes. Cuando las personas te hablan, te miran a los ojos. En realidad, eres evaluado en las primeras reuniones con tus ojos. Tus ojos y la piel que rodea los ojos son realmente importantes.

"Pero tengo un poquito de fat eyebag que sobresale, entonces si no se elimina esa grasa va a quedar la zona hinchada."

No puedo comentar sobre el efecto del hipertiroidismo o medicamentos. Ciertamente, estos pueden alterar la apariencia de tus ojos. Pero puedo comentar sobre los factores que hacen que los ojos se vean cansados y viejos.

1. Una acumulación de líquido en el tejido que rodea los ojos.

2. La falta de tono en los músculos (orbicularis oculi) que rodean los ojos.

3. Y una hernia de las almohadillas de grasa que rodean los ojos. Los ligamentos que sostienen las almohadillas de grasa en su lugar se han debilitado.

Mi opinión es que el ejercicio para los músculos que rodean los ojos puede corregir en gran medida estos problemas, especialmente cuando una persona como tú es joven. En las personas mayores, la corrección es más problemática.

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ojos hinchados
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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Sonia » Wed May 23, 2018 7:26 pm

Muchísimas gracias Tom, si un poco como la mujer de la foto pero más pequeňa tengo las bolsas de los ojos.
Es muy buena noticia que el ejercicio puede ayudarme con eso aunque sea grasa.
Voy a seguir haciéndolo todos los días, y espero tener suerte y aprender rapido también a hacer el ejercicio scalp.

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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by sunshine » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:04 am

Tom, it's very kind of you to get back to me to make sure I'm doing the scalp exercise correctly. I think I am. The first part is easy, as you say - just raising the eyebrows. The second part, working the occipitalis muscles, seemed impossible at first - but then I followed the hint about lying on a pillow and feeling the muscle contraction, and it seemed to come easily after that. Also feeling your glasses moving backwards towards the face.

I don't concentrate on raising the ears, but just visualise the two muscles at the back of the head and make a strong squeezing motion. The ears rise and flatten automatically and I can feel the occipitalis muscles moving towards each other. I used to place my hands on the muscles to make sure, but now I don't feel I need to. I can also feel the muscles on top of the head moving backwards under my hands, just as you say they should. I can easily hold the contraction for ten seconds or more without involving other muscles, although I do admit that at first I used to clench my jaw as well, which I don't do now. Does all this sound to you as if I'm doing it right? I hope so.

I have another question about this exercise: Is my understanding right, that the aim is to bulk up the occipitalis muscles, with the result that the skin is forced to stretch out over it, thus smoothing the forehead? If so, would it help the muscles to build up more strongly if I lie down on a hard surface, like the floor, to do it? That's what I've been doing lately, but I haven't been doing it long enough to evaluate the effects.

Also, won't the first part of this exercise cause or exacerbate the 'surprised-look' lines that develop over the eyebrows as one gets older? I have them. I seem to remember in the forum that someone else raised this question, and you said that it's okay to miss this part out and just do the second part, if the aim is to smooth frown lines and not to treat hair loss.

I fear that I have taken up too much of your time already, but I would be interested in your comments.

With thanks and best wishes.

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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by Tom Hagerty » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:34 am

Your description of how you do the scalp exercise makes me know that you are doing it correctly. "I don't concentrate on raising the ears, but just visualise the two muscles at the back of the head and make a strong squeezing motion. The ears rise and flatten automatically and I can feel the occipitalis muscles moving towards each other."

That difficult muscle
That difficult muscle
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The learning stage is hard. But now that you know how to do it, a scalp exercise session is almost fun. I used to clench my jaw muscles too but as you have found out, this is not necessary. The alternating contraction of both the frontalis and occipitalis muscles is a smooth movement. No other muscles should be involved, although there might be a slight involvement of the muscles around the ears.

"Is my understanding right, that the aim is to bulk up the occipitalis muscles, with the result that the skin is forced to stretch out over it, thus smoothing the forehead?"

The occipitalis muscles at the back of your head will get a lot stronger as you continue to exercise them. But I don't think they'll get much larger. What gives you a smoother forehead skin is the continuing backward pull on the scalp exerted by a toned-up occipitalis. A strong occipitalis muscle also gives the scalp mobility. A mobile scalp and forehead are not a good environment for horizontal and vertical line formation. When you look closely at people who have lines deeply etched into their foreheads, you will notice that their forehead skin is immobile - it's tight and inelastic. After you've been doing the scalp exercise correctly for a while, you will notice that the skin of your forehead and the frontalis muscle under it moves. There will be much more flexibility and expression in this part of the face. Stagnation and the Botoxed lack of expression will be gone.

"...would it help the muscles to build up more strongly if I lie down on a hard surface, like the floor, to do it?" If you like to punish yourself, I suppose this might work. But, really, I see no need for this kind of self-punishment. Just do the exercise in the sitting position while you're watching your favorite show on the television.


The way the people in India do the exercise
The way the people in India do the exercise
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"Also, won't the first part of this exercise cause or exacerbate the 'surprised-look' lines that develop over the eyebrows as one gets older? I have them. I seem to remember in the forum that someone else raised this question, and you said that it's okay to miss this part out and just do the second part, if the aim is to smooth frown lines and not to treat hair loss."

Here's the way that I do the exercise. I do a quick "flash" contraction of the frontalis followed by a strong, sustained contraction of the occipitalis. You may want to do the exercise this way. I see no reason why you would want to tightly contract the frontalis muscle. You'll be getting that alternating contraction even though you just slightly contract the frontalis.

But I can tell from your writing style that you like exploring new ways of doing things. You might find a style of doing the scalp exercise that is appropriate for you. I have found what's right for me. I hope my ideas help you.

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Re: Scalp exercise

Post by sunshine » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:38 pm

Thank you so much for that information, Tom, and the reassurance that I'm doing the scalp exercise correctly. Your hint about doing a "flash" contraction of the frontalis is very helpful and is something that I will implement. And yes - it is fun to do the scalp exercise. In fact, I enjoy all the facial exercises that I do, especially the ones that I can do 'on the go' when I'm short of time. Many thanks for devising these simple exercises and your generosity with your advice when we seek your help.

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