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Nish Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:41 pm: |
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Hi Tom, I got a few more questions about the exercises. First, with the mouth, chin, neck and scalp exercises, I can feel alot of tension being generated (that's a good thing). However with the eye exercise (even the advanced) I can only feel a small amount of tension generated. Any tips on how to generate more tension with the eye muscle and the nasalis muscles? Second, with the muscles of the body, to induce muscular hypertrophy, generally you'd use a program with 6-8 reps, medium/high tension, lots of sets (providing that proper execution of the exercises stays constant) and about 1 to 1 and a half minutes rest in between sets and about 5 times per week. Now, how come you work out the facial muscle muscles with a high rep/low set scheme? Do they respond differently to the muscles of the body? How much rest should I leave between sets, and should they be exercised every day or 5 times/week? By the way, until recently, I thought I was doing the scalp exercise properly. However, after seeing small lines develop on my forehead, it made me re-examine what I'm doing. I think I've been using more my temporalis muscles than my occipital muscles (and here I was thinking I'm an expert scalp exerciser :-)). I feel that when I use the temporalis muscles that the forehead mostly raises UP and back, whereas when I bring the occipitals into play, the forehead seems to stretch APART and slightly back. Just a heads up to others to check their form. Best wishes Nish |
   
Thomas Hagerty
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 8 Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 08:10 am: |
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Nish: To generate maximum tension in the orbicularis oculi (the eye muscle) and the nasalis muscles you have to keep the occipitalis muscle at the back of your head tensed while doing the exercise. This is not easy when you first start to do the exercise. It takes practice and a good control of the occipitalis muscles. And when you do the exercise for the muscles around the eyes, you don't need to exaggerate the wink too much. This may lead to crows feet lines developing. You can hold the wink a fraction of a second before doing each repetition. You wrote in regard to doing the scalp exercise, "I think I've been using more my temporalis muscles than my occipital muscles..." I don't think so. The temporalis muscles are under the auricularis muscles. If you place your fingers firmly over these muscles (just a little above the ears) and clench your jaws, you'll feel these temporalis muscles contract. These muscles are not used in moving your scalp. The auricularis muscles are not used either even though they are passively exercised while doing the scalp exercise. The only muscles used to generate movement of the scalp are the frontalis and the occipitalis. You do not want hypertrophy (overdevelopment) of the facial muscles and you will not get this no matter what you do. You cannot change your features, but you can make your original features look as good as possible. This means toned-up facial muscles covered by clear skin without too much fat in the subcutaneous layer. High repetitions done in two or three sets I have found is a good way to gain facial muscle tone.
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Nish Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 09:32 pm: |
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Tom I guess I must've been using the occipitals, but generating weak amounts of tension with them, I can feel them contract stronger now and just assumed that I hadn't been using them before. I think that I'm trying to compare the tension generated in the eye muscles to the tension I can generate in the other facial muscles, I think I'm doing the exercise right, but I think in comparison, the tension generated is fairly weak. So you can't build up facial muscles? Damn because I was sure my facial muscles atrophed when I got sick, but maybe they just lost tone. I'll try sticking to high rep training and see how that goes. By the way, how long did it take for you to see positive results when you started Tom? |
   
Thomas Hagerty
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 10 Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 08:30 am: |
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Nish: You asked, "how long did it take for you to see positive results when you started..." I never saw positive results if you mean dramatic changes in my face. I started experimenting with facial exercises after I saw that the scalp exercise not only grew hair, but made my upper face look more toned-up. This was when I was 19 or 20 years old. My enthusiasm for facial exercises comes not from seeing any improvement in my face, but in maintaining facial muscle tone throughout my life. I have seen improvement in other people though. Facial muscles can be built up if they are now atrophied. What I meant is that you can never build them up to the extent that they will be larger than they were when you were younger. |
   
Nish Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 05:12 am: |
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Okay, that suits me, all I wanted was for my muscles to return to their original size anyway, with a little more tone. By the way, do you do the exercises everyday? or leave a break? |
   
Ann Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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Tom if you do facial exercises every day, how long do you spend doing them? After you do them does your face feel tired? Thanks |
   
Thomas Hagerty
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 14 Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 03:41 pm: |
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Ann: I splash a lot of water on my face before I shave in the morning. While my face is wet I do the mouth exercise, the exercise for the muscles around the eyes, and the chin exercise. I do a lot of repetitions and three or four sets, concentrating on good form. It takes less than ten minutes. My face feels refreshed after doing these exercises. But when I first started doing them, though, the muscles were a little tired. After a week or two, when the muscles got used to the workout, there was absolutely no more tired feeling. |
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