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     Christy M New member Username: Christy Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2009 |
hi tom! 1) i know that you say that the lines on the forehead can get worse initially before they get better. does the same hold true for the sagging of the upper eyelids? that seems to have happened to mine-- 2) i remember you saying that it takes a while for the lines on the forehead to go, but do you know (i can't remember if you've specified this) is it usually like around a few/3 months, or more like 8 or so?! 3) when i lift my forehead, my eyelids lift too, BUT the outside of my eyelids where there is sagging do not really lift--even though i try! what do you think? 4) i've always been able to wiggle my ears, and so that might be the reason for this here: but even after i do twenty minutes of the scalp exercises, i still don't feel the burn and never have...is this okay? thanks sooo much, tom! christy | ||
| Thomas Hagerty Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 135 Registered: 05-2006 |
Christy M: 1. What makes the lines in the forehead disappear is a strong, toned-up occipitalis muscle at the back of the head. This muscle gently pulls up and back on the skin of the forehead, smoothing it out. I also think a well-developed occipitalis muscle keeps the eyebrow arch from falling. This is especially true for women. But I really don't know if the scalp exercise, even when it is done with perfect form, does much for the upper eyelids or the lower eyelids. These extremely small palpebral muscles might need special attention. I think the best exercise for them is Exercise One, Part B. I don't understand how the scalp exercise contributed to the sagging of your upper eyelids though. Even though the SE does not target specifically the eyelid muscles it does passively work them. It should tone them up, not make them weaker. 2. I don't like to give time frames for anything because everyone responds differently to exercise. But I think the reduction or the elimination of forehead lines takes only a few weeks if the SE is done correctly. I've seen this even in women over 50 years old. 3. I have no answer for this. 4. If you are doing the scalp exercise for your face, I don't think you need twenty minutes of this exercise. Now if you are doing it to regain healthy hair follicles, you do need a longer session. We probably both have toned-up occipitalis muscles so we don't feel the burn. That's OK. If you want to feel the burn though, go to a gym and get on a let press machine. Do a series of high repetitions with low resistance while you are doing the scalp exercise. You'll feel a massive burn fast because of the buildup of lactic acid. Of course if people are watching you do this double-duty exercise, they'll think you are nuts. | ||
| C M New member Username: Ceeme Post Number: 116 Registered: 06-2007 |
Christy you wrote:
I hope I understand this correctly. When you say "lift my forehead" are you talking about contracting the frontalis by lifting eyebrows? If that's the case, and if I understand the area you are referring to as not moving, then I would like to say mine doesn't move either. It only moves when I relax my frontalis and contract my occipitalis. It is when I move my ears that area around my temples moves upward and back slightly. My scalp too appears to move up slightly. Raising my eyebrows only seems to affect the skin directly above my eyebrows. | ||
| Thomas Hagerty Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 137 Registered: 05-2006 |
"It is when I move my ears that area around my temples moves upward and back slightly. My scalp too appears to move up slightly. Raising my eyebrows only seems to affect the skin directly above my eyebrows." That's an exact description of what happens. I also feel the raising of the skin directly above my eyebrows. | ||
| Ellie New member Username: Ellie Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi, everyone, I just wanted to share a video I found for reducing frown vertical lines on the forehead. I thought it would be a good addition to the five exercises we have all been doing by the courtesy of Mr. Hagerty. Do you think that pulling action will over-stretch the skin? Thank you all for the feedback. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK0RbSpV1sQ&feature=PlayList&p=67A7F634963E69DE&i ndex=7 | ||
| Thomas Hagerty Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 160 Registered: 05-2006 |
Ellie: I think Exercise Five - the Scalp Exercise is a more active way to eliminate the vertical lines that develop between the eyebrows with age. But the massage technique demonstrated on the video you linked to is also effective. The pulling action will not over-stretch the skin. I would recommend a film of oil on the skin before you do the massage though. |
